Subj:  your own forum

Date:  5/18/2001 12:12:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time

From:  BBu84

To:  XXXXXX

Brandon,

####See previous rebuttals, and perhaps, you should go to your local library (big building with all the books) and read a few chapters on basic logic and rational argument structure.####

I appreciate your efforts and the time you have taken to discuss this topic with me. However, I simply do not have the time or desire to keep trying to get through to you that you are the one with the burden of evidence. We are arguing in circles, with you asking me to constantly disprove YOUR supernatural claims.  I will repeat that, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, reality only consists of the material universe. You are asserting that something more than this exists, therefore you have the responsibility to define what it is you are talking about and make reasonable arguments for it.

Here are what I see as your main points, and why I object to them:

You appeal to the design argument for "God," but nature gives no evidence of possessing intelligent design. Sorry.

You appeal to popular belief in the supernatural as evidence for the supernatural. However, you do not accept MOST people's supernatural beliefs. I view this as hypocrisy.

You say that since we don't know everything about everything, doubting "God's" existence is wrong. This is the argument from ignorance and it is ridiculous. Ignorance is no reason for a positive belief.

I will post of all our correspondence to the page-response page 8-that I have been maintaining of our conversation at my web site.  If you were not yet aware of it, it is located here:

http://the-anointed-one.com/bbu85/responses8.htm#Chr

Additionally, I have created a forum just for you on my discussion boards. It is entitled "Brandon 'dismembers' atheist arguments" and it is located here:

http://pub7.ezboard.com/fcbbbfrm11

You are free to post whatever you want, whenever you want and argue with anyone who challenges you. The boards are frequented by several atheists (former Christians, like myself) so you are guaranteed to have an audience. This forum is linked to my website and will be linked from our discussion page.  I will respond to you there if you can come up with better definitions or support for your claims.  I am just tired of repeating myself, telling you that you have the burden of proof, telling you that you have to define what you are talking about, and then having to code virtually the same e-mails into a webpage every couple of weeks. What is the point?

Hope to see you on the board-

Brooks